Updated at 4:17 p.m.
Victoryfund.org: Audio recording from speech by Oklahoma State Rep. Sally Kern
Here are a few quotes from Rep. Kern’s hateful speech…
Studies show, no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted for more than, you know, a few decades. . .
I honestly think it’s the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam. . .
They want to get them into the government schools so they can indoctrinate them . . . They are going after our young children, as young as two years of age, to try to teach them that the homosexual lifestyle is an acceptable lifestyle.
You know, Gays are infiltrating city councils. . . Did you know that the city council of Eureka Springs is now controlled by gays? . .
. They are winning elections.We have the gay-straight alliance coming into our schools. . .
One of my colleagues said We don’t have a gay problem in our community… well you know what, that is so dumb. If you have cancer in your little toe, do you just say that I’m going to forget about it since the rest of you is fine? It spreads! This stuff is deadly and it is spreading. It will destroy our young people and it will destroy this nation.
This is why it is critical that folks speak out against gay hate speech. Sure Rep. Sally Kern has the right to be hateful and to say hateful things (as long as she doesn’t threaten people), but she doesn’t have the right to stay in the legislature. The people have got to speak up and vote her out of office, or better yet the legislature should impeach her and remove her from office. I see this as being no different than a state legislator coming out of the closet as a rabid racist and supporter of the KKK.
It must be made clear that it is wrong to refer to people made in the Image of God, as being a “cancer”, as being “worse than the terrorists or Islam” (and let’s not attack Muslim people either, but I guess Rep. Kern is a bigot in more than one way). This kind of speech is SICK AND WRONG.
I would encourage folks to call Ms. Kern and let her know that hate is not an Oklahoma value (and for that matter isn’t a Christian value either).
Her contact info (taken from the OK state house website) is:
(405) 557-7348
sallykern@okhouse.gov
2713 Sterling Ave., Oklahoma City, OK 73127
Updated at 4:17 p.m.: Oh boy, I forgot that Sally Kern was the same person who also wanted to mandate the creation of a “State Library Material Content Advisory Board” that would keep pro-gay books out of the hands of children. (thanks to Dustbury.com for this link
Don’t worry though. According to the Dustbury story from 2006, Kern insists that “I’m not a Nazi. I believe in free speech. But for every right we have, there is a responsibility.”
Yeah right. I think Hitler would have loved her anti-gay speech. He loved to scapegoat folks too
How dare she claim to be capable to REPRESENT us when she is willing to state that some of her own people, within her own jurisdiction, are worse than terrorists. I am personally hurt. I literally told someone just today that I had seen an article stating that with today’s trends people are becoming more and more accepting of us… And she responded with, “What about Sally Kern?”
I had finally come to believe it would be safe to openly tell people that I am a homosexual, with another woman to brighten my life and bring me joy. I have been corrected. This has shattered my hopes. I once said I refused to leave Oklahoma because of the weather- because of the atmosphere of the people- and because it’s my home. It’s all I’ve ever known. Now, I must finally ask;
Is there any other place in the Union that will accept me? I think it’s time that I tear up roots and relocate. This has made me physically ill. Goodbye, Oklahoma.
To Justin
I’m sorry that you have been unfortunate enough to sit under Catholic teachings. I believe they are false teachers and do not teach the scriptures. As I have been posting all along it is important that each and everyone of us read the scripture for ourselves.
The bible was written by over 40 men (used by God to pen his words), these men were from 3 different continents and it was written over 1500 years. There isn’t a man alive (then or now) that could write the Word of God as it is written. Do not be fooled……read it for yourself and don’t wait around for someone else to spoon feed it to you.
Rep. Sally Kern Slaps P-FLAG’s Other Cheek
Kern Insists P-FLAG is Lying and Dissembling
Too Close to Home?
(OKLAHOMA CITY) After Rep. Sally Kern met with three community leaders, one of whom is the president of the Oklahoma City P-FLAG chapter, in her Oklahoma City capital office on Thursday, March 27, P-FLAG issued the following statement—
P-FLAG blog:
http://www.pflag.org/blog/?p=165
However, Rep. Kern says P-FLAG used the meeting to put words in her mouth which she did not say. You can read her rebuttal statement here:
http://americansfortruth.com/news/sally-kern-rejects-pflag-account-of-meeting.html or http://tinyurl.com/ypfc73
I believe the meeting was recorded and that whatever was said by either party can be verified. This additional recording should be very valuable in the near future.
As I’ve said before when dealing with rabid religious fundamentalists it is not possible to expect them to behave in the way they are usually treated by our progressive friends, that is with civility and respect and the expectation the fundies will honor the words they have said. Since they act figuratively rabid, so should they be handled with figurative very thick gloves and a large physical distance between you and them.
I am acquainted with the three people with whom Rep Kern met, all of them of the progressive, religious mode of thinking and action, and I have no doubt of their honesty and integrity.
For Rep. Kern to state clearly and unequivocally that she was “used” in her discussion with them is nearly tantamount to the original outrageous speech she made that was recorded on Youtube. You can hear the complete audio from which the Youtube post was made of her speech and the transcript here: http://www.equalrightsproject.com/
This example of double-speak shows that Rep. Kern and her Konservative Korps of followers, that now includes the Thomas Moore Law Center http://www.thomasmore.org, and the American Family Association, http://www.afa.net, are not to be trusted.
Just as with Fred Phelps and his “God Hates Fags” project, the second move Kern has made after gaining your attention with blood-curdling words is to then claim any criticism of Kern makes her a victim, violating her First Amendment freedoms, and the criticizer is the perpetrator of suppression.
Kern does not know what responsibility means, she does not know the difference between free speech and irresponsible speech.
With the information here http://tinyurl.com/yqe8kk you can let Rep. Kern know who you think is telling the truth, she or P-FLAG.
Here is a link to another story in the Oklahoman newspaper in Oklahoma City: http://newsok.com/article/3222587/1206766864
with more explanation from Loyce Newton-Edwards, the OKC P-FLAG president.
In my opinion the P-FLAG members are acting honorably so I have to wonder why Rep. Kern would now be adverse to any further meetings with the Oklahoma City chapter of P-FLAG.
P-FLAG is as non-partisan as a gay/lesbian support group can get since it’s a 501(c)3 tax-deductible organization.
Having talked face-to-face with gay-friendly advocates does Kern feel that further contact with Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays is raising too much heat in her own kitchen for comfort?
James Nimmo
Oklahoma City
Angie said: “I’m sorry that you have been unfortunate enough to sit under Catholic teachings. I believe they are false teachers and do not teach the scriptures. As I have been posting all along it is important that each and everyone of us read the scripture for ourselves.”
Talk about bigotry. Some of my dearest friends are Catholics, and believe me, they live sacrificial lives of service. I don’t agree with all of their theology (as I don’t agree with any religious tradition 100% of the time), but I think the Catholic tradition has a lot to teach us.
Oscar Romero, Dorothy Day, Thomas Merton, Mother Theresa, these are just a few that come to mind.
sorry i hit submit too quick — I left off this from the last sentence of that last post “… these are just a few of the Catholic heroes of the faith from the past century. These folks showed us how to live like Jesus lived and should be respected and emulated. I have yet to find any protestant folks of the same caliber.”
What scares me with this discussion is those that wish to make this hate speech and therefor outlawed. So they would wish the government to tell us how to think and talk? If we can’t have open, honest and frank discussions like this we are certainly headed from trouble. For those that like government to tell you what you can say or do, think about this. What if the most radical religious leader became president and dictated what was considered hate speech. What is someone like Hiter controls our speech and actions???
Okay, let me get this straight – one side in this debate thinks it’s perfectly acceptable for a man to take his erect penis and insert it into another’s man’s anus until he ejaculates and call this “gay” and that the entire world should call this “normal”. The other side of the debate says this is “abnormal” and since it calls this practice into question is to be considered “unenlightened” by the “gay” crowd? And then, unless we want to be as “uneligntened” as Rep. Kern, we should call for her immediate removal from public office because she thinks this behavior to be aberrant? I don’t think so. She’s entitled to her opinion and her position until someone wants to run against her and beat her. That’s what America is all about. Until then, the incredibly small minority of people that are “gay” should go quietly into their bedrooms and not try to cram their lifestyle down everyone else’s throats.
What is there about this part of the country that attracts nut cases like Ms Kern? “Reverend” Fred Phelps also comes to mind. It there really such an abundance of ignorance and hatred abounding in these shameful areas?
I’m glad she isn’t my mother, my representative, neighbor or teacher. God protect us from your “Christians.”
Oh god…
I’m so disappointed that an elected official, and suppposedly “educated” woman thinks like this. This IS hate speech. Her “opinions” shes passing off as facts are completely unfounded. And to seriously insinuate that homosexuals are worse than terrorists… Is she joking?!
I’m glad I don’t live in Oklahoma. I’d be embarassed right about now if I did.
Well, I tend to agree that what Rep Kern said is disagreeable, but I don’t agree that it is hateful. To hold a basic belief that a certain value system is intruding into your world and to view that intrusion as a threat is NOT hate speech. It is simply the sharing of views.
Furthermore, I don’t think the we would agree with the various beliefs of any elected official no matter how closely aligned we might be with them. It is fine to hold an elected office and have a basic belief that runs contrary to the beliefs of some.
I have to ask, “Why is HER speech considered hate while a number of assertions made in these comments NOT considered hate?”
I agree with what Mrs. Kerns speaks of. Gays are bad for America I mean think about it, gay people cannot naturally produce more human beings. They have to bring in outside sources which is not what God had intended. God put Adam and Eve on this world to populate with their gametes, he didnt put Adam and Adam, or Eve and Eve because he knew that two men, or two women could not populate the earth. Long live the United States of America!!!
What amazes me is that the vast majority of people who “stand up” against gays do so in the name of Christianity… Yet Jesus never had a single word to say about homosexuality. Still, if we were to assume being gay to be a sin, as many Christians do, we would only need to look to Jesus’ example to know how to treat them – Jesus embraced sinners and showed them nothing but compassion. He did not make public statements denouncing them. He did not make false accusations against them. And he certainly did not compare them to cancer or blame them for the fall of societies. Though he was the Son of God, he did not take it upon even himself to “stand up” against sinners. Instead, he simply loved them. And the only people he “stood up” against were those who felt themselves to be the experts on scripture, God and his will – the Pharisees.
Those cheering on Kern in the name of Jesus would do well to ask themselves if they are truly emulating the one they claim to serve.
i won’t even go into the aggressive stupidity behind a thought process such as hers where gay people are more of a threat to the nation than terrorists
no, what’s most interesting to me is that ms kern is so concerned about standing up for the truth of god’s word and she will not apologise for doing so
well if that’s the case then she needs to realise she should sit the hell down, because according to the bible that i’m sure she loves to quote:
1 Timothy 2:11-14
“Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.”
or in other words, she should shut her filthy mouth
😉
if ms kern is so concerned about the word of god, maybe she forgot these words…
1 Timothy 2:11-14
“Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.”
Here’s some more blog commentary…
http://www.middleragedpunk.com/2008/03/31/free-speech-isnt-always-free/
http://al-alexdotcom.blogspot.com/2008/03/sally-kern.html
And here’s a pretty good op-ed from the Moore, OK newspaper…
http://www.themooreamerican.com/opinion/local_story_087113941.html?keyword=topstory
Ms. Kern, and the rest of you dumb mongrels…show the facts. Saying “you know” does not show scientific fact. Show me one gay 20 year old looking to teach a toddler to come out and be beaten up by other school children. Let Sally Kern beware that she would never get elected anywhere that electoral votes mattered, west coast and east coast would spit in her hair.
Who does she think designed those shoes and makeup shes wearing? This folks hold no validity – being an idiot she can’t help but speak from her butt.
“You cannot separate your faith from life,” she (Sally Kern) said.
Anyone who thinks this way should not be allowed in government in the FREE United States of America, a place thats supposed to have a separation of church and state. Get her out!
Hey jmb, in response to your response. The reason that Leviticus is for the Jews is because that is God’s covanent for the Jews. The first five books of the Bible together are known as the Pentateuch. These five books are historical books.Question. If God created human beings and said homosexuality is wrong than how can a human be born gay? If they could than God would be a hypocrit. Also I think your statment about not completely following the Bible is foolish. Even though I understand it.
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD PEOPLE!!
IT’S OKLAHOMA!!!
I was thinking about this whole Sally Kern remarks and all and how she said that “homosexuality” brought down civilizations. She really has her history very wrong. And she was a teacher! Before WWII Germany was a rather accepting place for the “homosexual” community. However Hitler’s Natzi party who began to rise to power felt that gays and lesbians (especially gay men), Jews and others were a threat to society so he wanted to cleanse society of them. Well he tried and what happen was that he eventually lost. He was never succesful at doing so. In the end people suffered horrible inhumane deaths and were subject to disgusting and intolerable experiments. You can’t tell me that gay people have brought down societies. My point here is that people were living their life rather openely and then came Hitler who beleived that homosexuality and Jews especially were “ruining” society so HE brought down Germany society not the gays. If he would have left everything alone people would not have died such horrific deaths! Hitler wanted to play GOD and create a super race. To me so many similarites to the radical people in our country who want to rid homosexuality. For what? To make a super race of people who all beleive the same thing. History repeats itself because so many people never learn. I guess Sally Kern forgot about this peice of history. Shame on her.
Speech like this bigot’s is how Hitler got the German people to support the Final Solution of the “Jewsih problem”. It is disgusting, and very unchristian. The woman must win the hypocrit of the year award
Dear Youtube,
I support Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City 150% and we incourage people to support her and take a stand against the gay agenda in the US because it is dangerous to our nation, just look at Sodom and Gomorrah, God judges nations for their sin. We must protect marrige, we must protect our children, and we must defeat the gay agenda, I say God bless Sally Kern and may God raise up more righteos leadership like her! Homosexuality is still sin! Levticus 18:22
LOL!!
I cannot say she shouldn’t be speaking her mind. This is America and all people have the right to free speech. But, whether or not she is right is a totally different story.
I think the bible has flaws. For one, it has been “revised” and that is bad. It has been translated into A LOT of different languages and that is bad because it is very easy to get the translation wrong. So using the bible to defend you opinion will not get you very far with me. If god despises gays THEN WHY AM I AND SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE WORLD GAY?! And don’t say it is a test because it’s not. God is loving not hateful. Leviticus 18:22(Daniel spelled it wrong) sounds like it was written by a homophobe. That to me is plain and simple.
Also, there was a comment that I read that said that there was too much teaching of homosexuality in the Nations schools. I for one, being a high school student, hear absolutely nothing about gay rights or homosexuality in the classrooms. In fact, in one of my classes I was yelled at for saying the word homosexual (in a public school!).
As to what Sally said, I don’t think she is very smart. The Romans did support gays and they ruled for over 1,000 years! That is a little more than “you know, a few decades.” The downfall of the Roman empire wasn’t even homosexuality. It was a actually the fact that there were too many bad emperors. The economy failed and down it went.(This took a couple HUNDRED years) After that, it was the obsession over the bible that caused that world to loose 1,000 years of development…
to listen to this woman speak with such words of hate, brings tears to my eyes. i am just seventeen years old, and i feel that i have a more open heart than this cold woman who i am embarrassed to say represents a part of our political system. i sit here and try to think of reasons why she would be so cold, and i can only come up with the fact that she is blind and ignorant to happiness. maybe her backwoods, low-life self needs to take a step back and realize that it is not we are not perverts, or sick in head..but some of us have gone through tramatic experiences, and have found ways to pick ourselves up through love. love is a beautiful thing, and i’ll be damned if anyone tries to put shame to that. love is one of the rarest pure things still found in this corrupt world, and people should be ashamed for trying to put that down. if she wants to berid of the hateful and corrupt and ugly world we now live in, she should consider the first step in doing so, by purchasing a one way ticket out of this country.
to listen to this woman speak with such words of hate, brings tears to my eyes. i am just seventeen years old, and i feel that i have a more open heart than this cold woman who i am embarrassed to say represents a part of our political system. have you learned nothing about what hate and intolerance can bring? how about Matthew Shepherd, or Teena Brandon? if there is no compassion in your heart to feel remorse for those two hero’s, and the thousands like them, then are you even human? or just a robotic souless tyrant? i sit here and try to think of reasons why she would be so cold, and i can only come up with the fact that she is blind and ignorant to happiness. maybe her backwoods, low-life self needs to take a step back and realize that we are not perverts, or sick in head..but some of us have gone through tramatic experiences, and have found ways to pick ourselves up through love. love is a beautiful thing, and i’ll be damned if anyone tries to put shame to that. love is one of the rarest pure things still found in this corrupt world, and people should be ashamed for trying to put that down. i dare you to sit down and get to know your public, and have a conversation with a gay, or lesbian, and then tell me if you consider them a disease. if she wants to berid of the hateful and corrupt and ugly world we now live in, she should consider the first step in doing so, by purchasing a one way ticket out of this country.
hannah ,
it is horrible that someone would speak like this to a certain group of people. Sure she has the freedom to do so but it hurts the many of us who are gay and live loving productive lives. There are days I feel like there are so many people that hate me for who I am, who I was born as. Makes me almost want to give up but I always say things happen for a reason. God has a reason for this all and I know I will not be punished because I am gay. He knows I am a decent human who respects others.
In high school I was bullied terribly and thought “when I get big” it will all end. I am 27 years old – actually 10 years older then you – and I have come to realize that there are still bullies on the playground. I have learned that they never leave but I have become stronger!
Representative Kern was NOT giving a HATE speech, she spoke the TRUTH. No One should be abused because of their sexual orientation but neither should THEIR sexual orientation be PUSHED on other people when it is NOT the NORM. God made Adam and EVE to populate the world, NOT Adam and STEVE. Because of all this permissiveness in America, not just homosexuality – abortion, and other things this country is DYING physically and spiritually. If people read the Bible, they would KNOW the TRUTH of what GOD says and that is IMPORTANT for any nation to keep existing. HE puts up nations and puts them DOWN and America is on the way OUT. We are in DEBT up to our neck, we are being INVADED by Mexico, we have LOST our OWN manufacturing companies and have to depend on other nations for items necessary for our livelihood, our dollar has fallen so much against the Euro and the peso it is unreal and I could go on and on summing up things pointing to the demise of America. SIN is the reason AND departing from the way God wants us to live. Revelation 21 v27 says And there shall in no wise enter into it (heaven) any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.” Romans 26-27 says “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another: men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 says “And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient” and it goes on to name unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, and malignity, whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, convenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable unmerciful etc. It depends on whether you believe the BIBLE or not how you feel about homosexuality. We all need to PRAY for God to have mercy on this nation and ALL its people.
Dora what you are saying is that sin caused companies to leave the U.S. and the dollar become weak against the Euro? The only sin that caused it was lying, greedy politicians not because I love another man and I am in a monogomous 5 year relationship. I in no way understand your argument.
Homosexuality has always existed and abortions even before they were legal in this country were performed. Back in the late 1800’s people were gay (they just stayed in a straight relationship and cheated) and abortions took place in private places like peoples homes. America did not fail it was prospering! So your argument that our country is failing because of these things has no ground. The reason why America is failing is becasue of an unnessary war and a greedy government.
And by the way we are in NO WAY FORCING our gayness down anyones throat! Why on earth would we puch people to be gay! Why would anyone want to live a life were the need to fight to love another adult human being! I don’t know I came from a straight family and did not know what gay was until I was 16, 17 so I dont know how I was forced into this. I knew I liked the same sex since I was in 2nd or 3rd grade. Beleive me, with all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. I am gay I know how it is to have these feelings so please don’t speak on my behalf. Thanks.
Sally Kern is right. homosexuality is perversion just like incest and bestiality! if we legalize such perversion what does it teach our children? imagine if a kid was walking and saw two men making out and committing such sick acts, what do you think would be going through that poor kid’s head? don’t you think in a way it would traumatize him? people need to open their eyes and wake up. on top of the fact that gays want kids to be taught such sick behavior, they also want to have gay clubs, gay parades, gay marriage, and gay adoption! they are a threat and they need to be stopped! I’m so happy the Arabs hang homosexuals. I would shake hands with everyone that hung gays and tell them what a good job they’ve done. as an American I’m proud to announce that all homosexuals should be hung and burned!
Sally’s words should serve as a rallying cry to fair-minded people everywhere; despite our progress toward a world in which everyone can live their own authentic life unmolested by others, ignorance and fear of the unknown still do exist and still do threaten the well-being of those who are perceived as being different from the majority.
This is not a religious issue, no matter how fervently Sally and her supporters strive to make it one. I have my beliefs and she has hers, and I’m content to meet my Maker at the appointed time and be responsible for the life I have led. I hope Sally shares my confidence when she is called to her own moment of reckoning, and I pray that we all be granted remission of our sins. But that’s all a red herring in the debate over homosexuality: this is about fear and ignorance.
From time immemorial, ignorance has led people to fear, and to fight, those who are different from themselves. The differences can be based on race or gender or social class or religion or a million other things that make us different from each other. Years later, as each of these battles is inevitably won by those who embrace enlightened acceptance of all our brothers and sisters, it is hard for us to imagine how we could ever have believed the things we did. Homosexuality is the current battleground for this ongoing human struggle. Homosexuals, in fact, are one of the last groups against whom blatant discrimination is still countenanced in many places. This is changing, and people like Sally who live in fear, are growing desperate. If not the gays, then whom?
This struggle, like most civil rights struggles before it, will eventually be won, and eventually the Sallys will have nobody left to fear. Then I guess they will have to look inward and ask themselves what is inside of themselves that made them so afraid in the first place.
Jacob (commenter #279) said: “Sally Kern is right. homosexuality is perversion just like incest and bestiality! if we legalize such perversion what does it teach our children? imagine if a kid was walking and saw two men making out and committing such sick acts, what do you think would be going through that poor kid’s head?”
I think the poor kid (assuming that the child was young) would be equally traumatized by seeing a man and woman making out.
As to the rest of what you said, I hope and pray that you some day, you will repent of the evil of posting such hateful threatening statements.
Jacob. I am gay and never was exposed to anything gay. So you tell me how I was “taught” this “so-called perversion.” I think you need to open your eyes and wake up. Being gay is not the same as beastiality. I dont sleep with animals. And its not the same as incest. I don’t sleep with my family. I love another legal aged man. Just to know that you enjoy the fact that gays and lesbians are hung says a lot about your character. As angry and as hurt that makes me I wish you to be a better person and find peace in your life. You have no idea how it is to be gay. One day you will know the truth. Till then find peace in your life. Not hate. Hate kills. Hate is evil. Hate is sadness. Show some respect. I respect your right to say what you feel. But I in know way agree because I know your speaking out of ignorance.
Jacob, little children think love is love. They don’t hate or discriminate or cause pain and sadness just because of what they think is stated in the bible, or said by ignorant homophobes like you. What is happening in our society right now is similar to what happened to african americans a hundred years ago: they were shunned because of something they could not change:the color of their skin. our love is something WE cannot change.
Jacob, do you agree that was wrong to be racist to blacks?
Being anti-gay is the same, and in 100 years I’m guessing Arabs will be profusely apologizing for their treatment towards gays, just like we have done for our Native Americans and African American slaves, and how Australians have done for their aboriginal people.
I am bi-sexual, and because of people like you and Sally Kerns I am still a closet gay.
You have the right to your opinion, and I respect that, but please except that we feel affection in the exact same way you do towards your girlfriend, the only difference being that no one will ever want to hang you for your love.
“OK – you should have rights – but do we need to hear about it everywhere? And must others be attacked at every turn? Your screams for tolerance are creating a whole NEW intolerance…toward anyone who doesn’t agree with you.” I’m sorry if I say anything really bad, but it’s statements like these that make me really mad, angry, frustrated, irritated, and enraged. You act like there are people and there are gay people, like heterosexuality is the default. You constantly pressure people into being straight. My parents did that, and I hated it. But now you’re complaining because you don’t like how the world is without that pressure. You’re assuming that you’re children are heterosexual. You don’t have to hate LGBTQ people to be prejudiced against us(By the way, I love people, not genders) It’s called heterosexism when you assume that they’re attracted to the opposite sex. When you assume, it makes an ass out of u and me.
“Studies show, no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted for more than, you know, a few decades. . .”
What studies? I’m sure there are no such studies. Actually, I sure there was never such a society.
You’re sexual preference is your business. Your immorality is society’s business. Straight or gay, promiscuitiy is weakening America. Hat’s off to Rep Kern for addressing this topic.
I don’t know for a fact that the following story is true, but regardless, the final quote is just about the best thing that I have ever read. There should be a giant sign with this quote posted in every legislative meeting room in the country. Professor Jamie Raskin is truly my hero.
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On Wednesday, March 1, 2006, in Annapolis at a hearing on the proposed Constitutional Amendment to prohibit gay marriage, Jamie Raskin, professor of law at AU, was requested to testify.
At the end of his testimony, Republican Senator Nancy Jacobs said: “Mr. Raskin, my Bible says marriage is only between a man and a woman. What do you have to say about that?”
Raskin replied: “Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible.”
The room erupted into applause.
It’s amazing how hateful some “peace loving” and “tolerant” people can become when they are not accepted by others.
Let’s reason for a moment. It is self evident that all humans are the product of a HETEROSEXUAL event – male sperm fecundating a female egg. It is also self evident that humanity would not exist if HETERSEXUAL behavior had not been the “Norm” throughout history.
Think it out Gay and Lesbian friends, it doesn’t take “Studies” to prove what the Representative is saying in principal. I know it hurts when we are singled out for being different, not “normal” but the fact is, social and behavioral “norms” are what eventually determine the success or failure of populations, whether it be ants, honey bees, salmon, lions or humans.
Jesus teaches us to love one another as brothers and sisters. Jesus also tells us we have ALL sinned and fall short of the glory of God. None of us, not heterosexual, not bi-sexual, not gay or lesbian are free of sin. We all must call upon Jesus for forgiveness and salvation and then seek to follow his teachings to love one another.
So, LGBT community, ease up a bit, we (heterosexuals) don’t hate you, BUT we also don’t want you to continue to try and convince us that your sexual preference is the “Norm”. All living creatures (with very few and rare exceptions) are living proof that HETERO
is the “NORMAL” way of life. We accept you as you are. Your challenge is to accept yourselves and stop promoting your way of life as “Normal” for society as a whole.
Respectfully
…and she has probably deluded herself into thinking that God will judge her words!
Fantastic! I’m supporting her truthful words. Homosexuals: God loves you because He created you. He is the moral standard. He has said Homosexuality is a sin. Therefore, according to His words it is an “abomination”. Those who love you want to see you live in heaven forever with God, not in hell forever in pain and agony. Those who hate you will tell you words which simply are not true. They will tell you lies to make you feel good. However, the same God Who said stealing, lyeing and adultry are sins also said homosexualtiy is a sin. He has made a away for you to come back to him, and that way is Jesus. You can live in sin here for 50-75 years and live forever in hell, or you can repent (Luke 13:3) and return to God and become a Christian and live with His joy now and forever. Your choice.
I once heard a young girl say that homosexuals should have no rights, because we do not reproduce, and therefore we don’t contribute to society. Do we really need to reproduce that much? There are nearly 7 billion humans on Earth. Considering our physical size and how quickly we reproduce, that’s amazingly high. In fact, it would do us good if our population decreased, according to some theories about the continuation of current species. Also, the bible says to love those you would hate, but also says to hate homosexuals. That is why I don’t use it as a reliable source of information.
I’ll sum this up in 5 extremely simple words this country was founded on. Separation of Church and State. It really is that simple. Morality and ethics live in two completely separate realms and Representative Kern has clearly crossed this line.
Despite race, creed, religion, or sexual preference if you are a citizen of this country you are entitled to the same rights as everyone else. It’s sad that this kind of bigotry is going on, and even more sad that Rep. Kern was elected to her position.
Good for her, I’m glad someone is standing up in the middle of this mess. I wish I could shake her hand and thank her myself on the spot, every single thing she said was true. The homosexual agenda is to spread their filthy doctrine to reach our children to de-sensitize them about nasty homosexuals.
I dare one of you to say I’m judging because I am you know why, Matt. 7:1-5 shows us that Jesus isn’t telling us not to judge he’s telling us how to judge, but since you’re such bright individuals go read it for yourself.
All of you leaving negative comments about her, please tell me what good homosexuality has done for the world. You jellyback new world people.
People today have no backbone anymore I swear.
God bless that woman, the bible condemns homosexuality because it’s sick. Did you know that God not only hates it, but it makes him sick to his stomach.
You don’t even need a bible to know that two big hairy stank men kissing is absolutely disgusting. I don’t hate them, I just will not support their ways, period. God is a fair God and wouldn’t have made men to cleave to women and vice versa if he didn’t make the parts we have on us, two men can’t reproduce, two women can’t reproduce it’s very simple people.
A socket cannot work with another socket, two plugs cannot work together, but when you connect a plug into a socket you have something that works. Very simple isn’t it.
Hey Andre,
God doesn’t have a stomach, so I doubt his stomach gets sick over homosexuality.
And God made homosexuals too.
James
Hey jmb, you must not read the Bible.
God did not make homosexuals Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 both say homosexuality is a sin, an abomination, and partakers shall surely be put to death. You sure God made homosexuals, he’s a fair God, why do you think we have the organs we have. Why is it that the animal kingdom Got it but homosexuals don’t.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 also says that abusers of themselves with mankind (homosexuals) will not inherit the kingdom of God.
It’s plain as day all over the Bible that homosexuality is rejected by God, he destroyed Sadam and Gamoore (spelling) becuase the whole city was infected with homosexuality.
Andre,
I’ve read the Bible from cover-to-cover, Genesis-Revelation during an 18 month period of time a few years back.
If you have the courage to rethink your prejudices, I double-dog dare you to read this….
http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible
What the Bible says, and doesn’t say, about homosexuality
JMB,
You cannot change the fact that Leviticus 18:22 says Thou shalt “not” lay with mankind as with womankind: it is an abomination. Thats common sense and and straight as an arrow easy to comprehend. saying that scripture means something else is complete twisting of Gods word, peace.
A memo to those espousing religious scripture,
In the United States of America, religion of any kind is an option—not a requirement.
Having said, what is certainly worse than Sally Kern occupying her political position is that of the Oklahoma residents who voted her in office.
She is their problem.
—D
I do not see hate in Sally Kern’s comments. She is stating fact.
If truth offends you consider relocating to a country where homosexuals are welcome.
I dont mean to hurt anyone’s feelings but homosexual lifestyles lead to death.
They can not reproduce, there is no lineage, no offspring, no heritage, no children hence no grandchildren. These are the facts. Who in their right mind would pursue such a deadly future?
God is pro life, pro family, pro blessings, pro children, etc.